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    • CommentAuthor_
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2012
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    isn't opendns going to block those things anymore?

    and how do you submit something in Malware? there is this website that is clearly malware and google safe browsing confirms, but there is no suitable tag.
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    Adware is still there. In Domain Tagging, it may be absent as there was much confusion and the entire category may be down for official review. You can open a support ticket if you want an answer.

    There is no Malware category. It is only available for filtering at the Enterprise service level. The default malware protection covers only certain conficker and IE zero-day exploit domains which are provided by official internet working groups. However, you can send the malware domain in a support ticket, although it will likely only be blocked for Enterprise users.
    • CommentAuthorzelus
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2012 edited
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    Like the Phishing category, the Adware category will be under direct supervision and control by our Domain Tagging team.

    If you have any questions regarding submissions to the Adware category then please open a support ticket:
    https://dashboard.opendns.com/support/

    Also, adware != malware.

    The Malware category is already directly supervised and maintained by our staff very strictly, and has not been changed in any way relating to how the Adware category now works. As maintenance has already explained, there is a base level of Malware protection that all OpenDNS users receive - OpenDNS Enterprise customers have a more robust and broad spectrum of Malware coverage.

    If you have any questions regarding our Enterprise solutions then please feel free to contact our Sales Team for details: http://www.opendns.com/business-solutions/
    Thankful People: geeknik, maintenance, john_m_leeds
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    There are still a whole load of domains that are up for voting as Adware. Should it still be possible to vote on these, especially considering that most seem to be advertising-related domains and not sites serving up adware?
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    adware == malware

    No cogent rebuttal available from the self styled genius here? outright nuking?

    this is not the place for mature discussion then?
    • CommentAuthorzelus
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2012 edited
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    ploosimurax, adware and malware are certainly unequal - both are subset categories (or types) of domain tags and are distinct in the OpenDNS categorical system. The two may share some overlap, but certainly not all the time - thus unequal.

    A domain may host a site that offers software with adware in it - for example, sites that re-package VLC downloads.

    A domain may also host websites that do drive-by injections of malware.

    Software may include both adware and malware, but they're not the same.

    Edit: Typos.
    Thankful People: geeknik, Red Prince, john_m_leeds
    • CommentAuthordogweather
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2012 edited
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    I suggest that someone at OpenDNS write a script or do a SQL query and mass-update these domains that have been tagged Adware. Either remove the tagging, or hide the status in the Domain Tagging UI.

    As a new user on the site, it's confusing to me to see an endless supply of Adware tags to vote on, yet no description of the tag on the "Categories" tab, and only mysterious suggestions to open a support ticket for more info. I see many domains that are apparently mis-categorized in other ways as well, but I'm unsure what is actually going on here.

    I'm inclined to wait out the organizational turmoil and come back in a couple of months when things have been made consistent.
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    Tip: Don't vote on Adware tags then. Or vote no if you don't think it is adware. There is a reason that voting no is an option.

    Adware is fairly well-defined if you happen to look it up. The official definition in use by OpenDNS was quoted in this thread.

    ""Sites that distribute applications which display advertisements without user's knowledge or choice. Does NOT include sites which serve advertising.""

    Aside: I'm not quite sure how users inappropriately tagging domains is "organizational turmoil". OpenDNS is not confused about their definition.
    • CommentAuthordogweather
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2012
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    I'm sorry my comment came off as hostile; I was a bit frustrated. I'll have patience with a system under development. What I mean by 'turmoil' is just that the data is in an inconsistent state, yet the application is still running, and new users are allowed to sign up.

    And by inconsistent state I mean tags in use which aren't defined. You say to "look it up", but this is exactly what I asked about in my other post; I read the docs a couple of time and it wasn't there. One definition (where it's not clear if it's the official) being buried in a thread doesn't help educate new users.

    And now, as a way of helping, here are a couple more examples I've seen that might prevent new people from diving in to work on the project:

    Adult Themes - the def. spec's that it be the only tag, but the UI doesn't give the tag reviewer this info.

    Business Services - the spec could be clearer. I don't understand it: "Sites for corporations and businesses of all sizes, especially company websites." Does this mean B2B sites? I.e. sites *for* corporations as visitors? Or rather, sites *about* corporations? The latter seems to be the intent. But then "Business Services" isn't the clearest name. Rather, something like Business Presence.
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    Didn't mean to imply that I took your post as hostile. :smile: I'm sorry if it came across that way as well. Such are at times, the limitations of brief text exchanges with respect to understanding style, idiom and emotion not explicitly described in novel-length passages.

    "And by inconsistent state I mean tags in use which aren't defined. You say to "look it up", but this is exactly what I asked about in my other post; I read the docs a couple of time and it wasn't there. One definition (where it's not clear if it's the official) being buried in a thread doesn't help educate new users."

    Right. I meant to indicate to look it up in general, not at OpenDNS, which is why I specified the official definition immediately afterward. Yes, it is now buried in a thread, as the category was removed from community tagging. See the second and third posts in the thread where I and a mod answer the OP. IOW, don't even worry about the Adware category anymore. Unless it returns to community tagging in the future. Until then, it doesn't matter whether you see Adware as an option for voting on any given domain. You may still see such domains, but as noted, this is a work in progress, under review, and in the end it may or may not even be worth the effort to re-engineer the system so that legacy submissions no longer display. Or maybe they are going away, but this will never happen over night, so to speak.

    "Adult Themes - the def. spec's that it be the only tag, but the UI doesn't give the tag reviewer this info."

    I know. You can't make people actually read anything, as is in plain evidence in this forum. You could put it in 72 px blinking red font in the UI, and some people will still ask about it as if thy had seen no reference available. Best to investigate the site and actually read it, or one will always run into a problem somewhere. Also, it is largely irrelevant. OpenDNS will approve the appropriate tags as fit the domain. Users may vote one way or another or both - this is how a voting system works. It is neither contradictory nor a waste of time to add or vote on any tags. Brief illustration: Some extremist to whom everything but their coffee maker is Pornography tags sites as such, but someone more sensible might tag as Adult Themes as there is no actual porn of any sort involved. (Or it could be a reasonable difference of opinion, just trying to exemplify and obvious difference here.) So it wouldn't then be inappropriate or confusing to tag a domain as Adult and vote no on Porn. Make sense?

    Also, I believe it is not the "only tag". It is only mutually exclusive with other tags of the same root nature (morality policing). OpenDNS can correct me if I'm wrong here. (You can ask in a support ticket for a possibly faster response, or an official response at all.) But again, I don't see that it matters much.

    Business services: Services to businesses, yes. Not mutually exclusive with a business site also providing services to private individuals, as long as they provide services to business.

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