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Adult site blocking: [Closed] So what happens when your son creates an OpenDNS acct?
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I suspect he has done this and has reset the filters under his account. I verified and even modified my settings, but no adult sites are blocked anymore. I read all the faqs, update cache, etc.
Any ideas greatly appreciated... -
- CommentAuthormarcusburge
- CommentTimeAug 23rd 2008
it is likely that you have a dynamic address and your address has changed. two separate users cannot create networks with the same IP's. It won't work. It will tell you that the network exists already.
Opendns blocks sites based on your settings from the public address you put in when you signed up. If you have a dynamic public ip, you must use software to keep it updated:
http://www.opendns.com/support/article/90 -
More likely he has added addresses for other dns servers to your network setup.
On the Mac you have to ensure there are no other DNS servers listed in Network preferences. Note that servers listed under Ethernet get used even if you are connected to the internet via wireless, as your requests start out from your machine's local ethernet. -
@marcusburge -- my ip address (which is dynamic) hasn't change and/or is currently the same as what the opendns network lists.
@mfourman -- multiple computers in use here, all get to then net via wireless router. The wireless router is set up correct. My computer has no other network connections (local ethernet is disabled). Adult sites are still accessible from my computer (and by observation, my son's also
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Going to purge all my caches again and see where that gets me. -
@bacincny
What does http://welcome.opendns.com/ come back with?
Try it from all your devices/computers. -
Do you see your IP address as your current network at https://www.opendns.com/dashboard/networks/ ? If not, try updating it manually for the time being. But for the long run you need to run an updater as a service, such as Inadyn, and make sure that your son's account on his computer does not have administrative privileges.
Of course, disciplining him would help too, by either moving the computer to a public area or donating it to a charity, since he hasn't shown that he can control himself or obey you.
HTH -
@tatiana
As you suggest to discipline someone, I am afraid you overinterpreted what bacincny was reporting. The subject is "So what happens when your son creates an OpenDNS acct?", and he stated that adult sites are no longer blocked. He did not say that his son usually visits adult sites, or that he really created an alternative OpenDNS account, or anything else of such nature. So, no reason to panic or to recommend drastic measures, especially as these are inappropriate, unrealistic and outmoded.
Also, there is anyway no way to finally block any internet content at all for others, as I have explained and proved already in so many threads here. Again: YOU CANNOT BLOCK CONTENT FOR OTHERS, there are always methods and ways to circumvent this, and this is good so. You only can block content intendendly for your own purposes, because you usually will not circumvent your own blocking measures, and this is also good.
@bacincny
In fact, your subject question has not been clearly answered yet: "So what happens when your son creates an OpenDNS acct?" The answer is: The first and quicker updater wins, and the second gets "the network exists already", as marcusburge correctly mentioned. A certain IP address can be associated with only one OpenDNS network, i.e. the relationship between IP address and OpenDNS network is unique.
Whether there is a second network which catched an IP address can be seen at https://www.opendns.com/dashboard/networks/ - the IP address is no longer in sync and cannot be changed to the current IP address ("network already exists").
And again, what does http://welcome.opendns.com/ come back with? -
rotblitz,
You're the one who's outmoded, to the point of being unrealistic and innapropriate with your kumbaya thinking. -
Rotblitz is right. I don't see discipline entering the picture here. If anything, it merits a talk about circumventing the measures in place.
To confront the OP's son about visiting adult sites, this person would need some kind of hard evidence (log of blocked domains?). Perhaps that would require setting up a proxy to filter traffic through with logging turned on or a commercial solution if OpenDNS isn't working out.
Bear in mind, however, that these measures can be defeated if he is sophisticated enough. Also, if he gains any kind of administrative access, all bets are off.Thankful People: rotblitz -
@stalbert
Thank you for implying me "thinking". Sorry for not being able to repay this compliment, because you missed the point: presenting arguments and reasons and facts that I'm not right.
Edit: Oops, I'm just seeing that this was your first contribution to the forums. Welcome! What a pity for not starting with a better introduction. However, I got the merit to be able motivating you contributing to the forums.
Another Edit: Welcome J.P.! This was your first contribution to the forums as well. -
Rotblitz,
If you consider that spurting "outmoded" is thoughtful and a criterion for any intelligent consideration... -
@tatiana
"Outmoded" means that the disciplinary measures listed by you have been applied many decades ago in my country, as has been found with minor success. These are in no relation to what has possibly happened, or even did not happen, and do not really cause any positive change or success with a minor. Nowadays education has been found to cause more enduring and desirable results than disciplinary measures in form of punishments. But parents had to invest much time, and often they are not willing to do so. Instead they fall back punishing their offsprings, causing more damage than they think, and also do not save time at the end.
And yes, I'm treating this as a viable, serious and intelligent consideration.
But why do we continue with this discussion? Bacincny did not come back yet with any findings, and if and how he could resolve his problem with adult sites not blocked. The forum is full of threads with something isn't blocked which should be, and something is blocked which shouldn't. I'm pretty sure that the big majority of these threads are not caused by sons or daughters creating OpenDNS accounts or changing DNS settings.
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Rotblitz,
No, "outmoded" means that it's not fashionable anymore. And that's just what disciplining is, but it's still quite effective, as I can attest as a parent. The evidence for your argument is at large among teenagers. -
Believe me, it only seems to be effective - short-term. Universities and competent scientists have proved to the contrary. Just look around.
And here interesting stuff regarding blocking of the internet. This site is promoted by the German government. (Sorry for the bad translation, Google can't do it better yet.)
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blinde-kuh.de%2Fschutz.html&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=de&tl=en
And your guesses are wrong, I'm not a teenager, I'm at the end of my fifties, I'm parent as well, have qualified as teacher, and have a lot of experience with child education. -
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