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I'm a noob here. When I entered the community the first page was about voting on domain tags. The first site on the vote list was tagged news/media. I like news/media sites, the link didn't look familiar so I clicked to check it out. To my surprise I ended up on a page telling me that it was blocked (with another URL than what I clicked) because that url was tagged adware.
I guess what 's the matter is that the site proposed as news/media is correctly tagged, but also, as in most news sites, has some/lots of links/redirects to adware. But there is no way to check this other than lifting my block on adware. Well, for adware not a real problem, but how about malware and phishing sites? I don't want to lift those blocks.
Wouldn't it be nicer if OPEN DNS would create a screenshot from proposed domain tagging sites, show these instead of the actual sites when clicking links in the vote list? It would make voting a lot easier, it could even give a slide show, showing the next screenshot after each vote. It would allow us to give a lot more votes in less time and with no other risk than being exposed to screenshots of the kind of sites we do not like. That's as harmful as walking into a bookshop, you never know which covers will be on display. -
"The first site on the vote list was tagged news/media."
What is the site? Without this information nobody can reproduce this.
"But there is no way to check this other than lifting my block on adware."
There probably is, if we knew an example.
"how about malware and phishing sites? I don't want to lift those blocks."
You don't need to.
"Wouldn't it be nicer if OPEN DNS would create a screenshot from proposed domain tagging sites"
I thought this is the case already. Not sure what you mean.
http://www.opendns.com/community/domaintagging/
From there you can get to the specific page with the details and screenshot by clicking the sheet link (e.g. http://domain.opendns.com/example.org), or to a frame view by clicking the domain name (e.g. http://www.opendns.com/community/domaintagging/domain_frame.php?domain_id=270477&category_id=21).
"...showing the next screenshot after each vote. It would allow us to give a lot more votes in less time"
Judging from a screenshot if a site is correctly tagged is more than dangerous and leads to lots of mistakes. We already have too much. -
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"What is the site? Without this information nobody can reproduce this."
My idea for improvement has little to do with that particular site. Whether or not you can reproduce it depends on if you have the exact same blocking settings (and possibly other settings, I'm not yet familiar with all OpenDNS settings yet).
But reproduction is not the problem. It is simple logic that a single site can have multiple tags or it can inherit tags from redirects and so on. That's not the problem either.
By the way I didn't bookmark the blocked page (why should I?) and my history is so full of opendns pages I visited today that it would cost me a lot of time to find that url again.
update, found the url
"Should slackersguild.com be tagged News/Media?"
http://www.opendns.com/community/domaintagging/domain_frame.php?domain_id=10044&category_id=33
That url gives me:
"Site blocked. searchportal.information.com is not allowed on this network."
"This site was categorized as:"
"Adware, Parked Domains"
and indeed adware is in my blocking list
"I thought this is the case already. Not sure what you mean."
When you click a sheet icon in the domain tagging list, you get a thumbnail, a very small representation of the actual site. A screenshot is IMHO full size and a slide show shows pictures one by one without the the need to go back to the domain tagging list. Judging from thumbnails is IMHO more dangerous than judging from screenshots. Anyone can see the difference between news/media and pornography on screenshots of such sites. Voting is IMHO not the best way to decide about phishing and other malicious sites. Perhaps the frame view can protect against spyware being installed to my system (is that the intention of the frame view?). But for example a screenshot from the real paypal site looks probably identical to a screenshot from a paypal phishing site, unless the phishers are really stupid. And the same is true for a frame view. Amateurs should not be asked to vote on such matters. -
"Whether or not you can reproduce it depends on if you have the exact same blocking settings"
Not really. I wanted to check what domains are participating, and how these are tagged. In the given case, slackersguild.com is not approved for any category, it is only tagged as news/media. It is apparently a parked domain, but tries to load a pop-up from searchportal.information.com, which again is approved as Adware and Parked Domains. And this one has been successfully blocked by OpenDNS for you (and for me by my pop-up blocker).
And no, I do not really see an advantage of having big screenshots instead of visiting the original site. P0rn may be obvious in some cases, or even not. However, relationships to other categories are usually not so evident. And also, as you could visit slackersguild.com, although their pop-up was blocked, you got the chance to vote regarding news/media. -
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- CommentTimeJun 6th 2009
Phishing domains are provided by PhishTank. Others may have been submitted to domain tagging for phishing as well, however. Whereas the PhishTank community itself votes on domains, that is their gig, it is what they do, and I'm sure some are quite passionate about it. There is no way to automatically identify phishing, so some humans have to do it.
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