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OpenDNS services: Google Public DNS on purpose misleading people against OpenDNS

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    • CommentAuthoramishmm
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009 edited
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    Look at this: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/intro.html

    It calls itself as Public DNS but when it comes to saying bad about public DNS, instead of using word "Public DNS or Public resolvers" it uses words "Open DNS and Open resolvers"

    I think OpenDNS people should sue Google for doing this on purpose OR ask them to change words to properly use "Public DNS or Public resolver"

    From OpenDNS fan.
    Thankful People: getpchelp.com
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      CommentAuthordavidu
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009
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    Thanks -- While it's annoying that they've done this, I'm glad you recognize Google isn't quite the saint they make themselves out to be. That said, more choice in the DNS is a good thing and we're a business well equipped to compete.

    I'll have a blog post up in a moment with some more thoughts.
    Thankful People: Daniel Gifford, markoe, maintenance, crazyal15, cindelicato, bsktbl
    • CommentAuthormarkoe
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009
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    David,

    Your business model and backers are respected by many. You guys keep up the good work and keep doing what you're doing.

    Regards,
    Mark
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    From what I read they imply that (1) their DNS cannot be used in DDOS and that others can and (2) incorrect results include blocked, filtered and redirected responses.

    I find point #2 fairly ironic given Google's choices with regards to Chinese censorship. Does OpenDNS avoid being misused as described in #1?
    • CommentAuthorrotblitz
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009
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    I'm even more afraid about this additonal source for tracking. What they couldn't catch from normal web surfing, they will get now via DNS... :shocked:
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    "(1) their DNS cannot be used in DDOS and that others can"

    That isn't actually what is implied. What they are saying is that they apparently do not use or make provision for EDNS0, as it could return larger packets (more "extended" info), thus making for a "better" DOS attack.

    Yeah, Google probably thinks that its implementation of a DNS server is better than all others. Considering the never-ending beta status of most of their code, I'm a bit incredulous.

    Then again, a lot of other public DNS *is* dreck. But I'd argue that OpenDNS is the best.
    Thankful People: mcstafford
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    "EDNS0"

    Thanks for mentioning that.

    "OpenDNS is the best"

    I count myself as lucky to have found OpenDNS years ago. There are few things I make sure to put on computers of friends and family and this is one of them.
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    Just for example, the OpenDNS implementation was already immune to the type of attacks described by Kaminsky. Most others were not. (Remember the big secret DNS flaw for which the major players in DNS had to code patches?)
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    • CommentAuthortherem
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2009
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    using Google's public DNS on a client's computer can bypass the router's OpenDNS Content Filtering.
    • CommentAuthorad47uk
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2009
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    I have been using Open DNs for a year or so, maybe longer. I have no intention of using Google DNS, in fact I try to avoid anything to do with Google, even blocking their adverts and cookies.
    Thankful People: rotblitz
    • CommentAuthorrotblitz
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2009
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    @therem
    "using Google's public DNS on a client's computer can bypass the router's OpenDNS Content Filtering."

    This statement is valid of every DNS service configured on the computer. It is not related to Google. Not sure why you bring this up in this Google related thread...
    • CommentAuthorcrazyal15
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2009
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    I have just tried using Google's DNS servers and I HAVE noticed a speed difference, But I am still going to stick with OpenDNS for the content filtering and just block all DNS traffic except to OpenDNS in my router.

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