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    • CommentAuthordarryl_g
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2011
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    I applied the Opendns Familyshield DNS servers to my router:
    208.67.222.123
    208.67.220.123

    I have young kids and the Opendns Familyshield seemed to offer good layer of filtering for bad content.

    However, I’ve found that you can still search Google for inappropriate material, and then click “Images” or Video” on the left in Google, and then access the inappropriate material – even with Opendns Familyshield in place. A smart kid is going to figure that out pretty fast. Thanks Google. (NOT!) It’s a pretty big FAIL on OpenDNS’s part also.

    Darryl
    • CommentAuthorzelus
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2011 edited
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    FamilyShield doesn't block Google. The images and videos you see while searching Google are hosted on Google's servers/domains; if you want to explicitly block these images and videos, then you can use OpenDNS basic and blacklist gstatic.com and still have access to the rest of Google's services.

    This same concept and idea applies to all major search engines (with different domains, of course).
    Thankful People: jamesdk
    • CommentAuthordarryl_g
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2011
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    OK, thanks. I'll try that. Do you have a list of other servers (such as gstatic.com) that will block similar content from other search engines?

    And really, shouldn't the Familyshield block these without setting up custom blocking?

    Familyshield should be a no-brainer. People apply Familyshield and they expect porn to be blocked. However, porn is not blocked. That's a simple fact and it's a fail.

    Perhaps Familyshield should block gstatic.com by default?
    Thankful People: Kenya76
    • CommentAuthorzelus
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2011 edited
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    No, Familyshield will never block search engine content by default as search engine content is not adult/proxy material by default. (gstatic.com by itself is not inherently adult/proxy in any way.)

    Familyshield blocks adult themes, pornography, proxy, phish, and malware, but nothing outside of these categories. Should a domain have the explicit purpose of being a proxy or adult themed then it should be blocked; search engines do not fit this category. Phish and malware blocking is defaultly used by all OpenDNS users.

    FamilyShield really is a no-brainer for blocking what it says it blocks. "The single easiest way to keep your kids safe online — and away from adult websites — on your home Internet for free. No software to install." Google is not an adult website, it's a tool, so that's why gstatic.com and other Google domains are not blocked.

    If you want to explicitly block other search engine content, then block these.
    Bing Images: mm.bing.net
    Yahoo Images: thm-a01.yimg.com, thm-a02.yimg.com, thm-a03.yimg.com, etc.
    Google Images: gstatic.com
    Ask Images: picsearch.com

    Note: Blocking these domains/subdomains may cause other parts of associated domains to load incorrectly or not display images at all. (This is an assumed given.)

    Be sure to flush your web browser caches and DNS resolver caches after changing any DNS or filtering settings for or on your network.
    http://www.opendns.com/support/article/209
    http://www.opendns.com/support/article/327
    Thankful People: maintenance, rodriguez1234
    • CommentAuthorrotblitz
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2011
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    "People apply Familyshield and they expect porn to be blocked. However, porn is not blocked. That's a simple fact and it's a fail."

    You missed the "D" like Domain. A DNS service can block only based on domain. So if the domain isn't about what you expect to be blocked, it isn't blocked.

    And regarding Google, why not use Safe Search persistently?
    http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?answer=144686
    More: https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?Gw=google+safe+search

    This would be the right approach (beside FamilyShield) for what you are looking for!
    Thankful People: cindelicato, ebl
    • CommentAuthordarryl_g
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2011
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    Thanks for the information (and the service). I'll try blobking these additional search engines, and look at the Google Safe Search options.
    • CommentAuthormlejter1
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2011
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    "People apply Familyshield and they expect porn to be blocked. However, porn is not blocked. That's a simple fact and it's a fail."

    The more general issue is that the OpenDNS category listings are woefully behind the times.
    I set it up, to prevent access to porn sites - and ended up setting up my max 50 web sites that are explicitly blocked under my account here at opendns. I submitted these a while back, and they are still "waiting for votes". In the meantime, quite a number of additional sites have come up, and I can no longer add them to my own blacklist, and submitting them as porn sites just leaves them in the "waiting for votes" state ... :-(

    Moises
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    @ mlejter1 - you can email me direct at marc at opendns dot com with the list of domains you need to get approved and we'll try and expedite those for you. we can't do this in every instance, but if you're maxing out your blacklist we can try and do that so you can free up space on your blacklist.
    Thankful People: zelus, maintenance
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    Yeah, mlejter is quite right. OpenDns is behind the times, and there are a huge amount of porn sites that's still unaffected by the OpenDNS filterins, unfortunately.

    And regarding the issue about google image searching, and the amount of porn that's accesible there: Isn't it about time that Google themselves begin to consider their role in making the Web a much safer and healthier place? It's getting more and more difficult to block away the porn completely, as it's spreading all over the net with high speed, like a cancer cell making everything it touches sick.

    Actually, the whole thing could be traced further back, to how our capitalistic free marked works today. The porn industry is literally free to ravage the Internet completely free, without any governmental concern whatsoever! I'm getting rather upset that the health governments still is not doing much in order to regulate the distribution of porn content on the net... It's getting a big challenge to keep the porn away today, when it actually should have been the very oposite. That those people who really wanted to consume this crap had to go through a longer effort in order to get their drug.

    But the moment someone even mention governmental censorship, then the majority literally looses their mind and begin to whine that "The West will turn into North Korea" or something...
    Thankful People: mazz79
    • CommentAuthorrotblitz
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2011 edited
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    See http://forums.opendns.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=9285#Item_4

    Also, really, why not press your government to take care about this? Many, also western, countries have related regulations. You're out of luck if they like to watch p0rn, of course.
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    I just found several dozen porn sites that were also not protected by OpenDNS; might some of the site's web developers be making changes after they are listed or found by the DNS Community? Google has a safe search mode that works well, but its not effective in the Incognito Mode. Google should allow users to disable the Incognito feature.
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    "I just found several dozen porn sites that were also not protected by OpenDNS; might some of the site's web developers be making changes after they are listed or found by the DNS Community?"

    Why would they need to change anything?

    Are the domains approved in the Pornography category? Check:
    http://www.opendns.com/support/checker/
    • CommentAuthorrotblitz
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2011
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    ...and submit them as needed:
    http://www.opendns.com/community/domaintagging/submit/
    This is how this works! Complaining here is of no use. It's all up to you!
    http://www.opendns.com/community/domaintagging/faq/
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    Okay, just submitted 50 sites for domain tagging!
    • CommentAuthorrotblitz
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2011
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    @woodchucking
    I just checked five of the sites you've submitted (whiterabbitvibrators.com trojanvibrations.com theloverstouch.ca sextoysbible.com sexandsugar.com) and sad to say, not even one of them is Pornography. Bad chances to get them approved ever under this category...

    Read here to understand what pornography is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography
    • CommentAuthordwinara
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2011
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    I am suprise that the porn web still can be acces. Thank. But we should aware all just for relax, not for seriously work. This is just for me. Just for fun.
    Thank alot.
    DUW2002
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    Okay, maybe should be an adult or other category that is not for children; e.g., 18 or under.
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    Adult Themes could make sense. The category descriptions and submission/voting are available to you.

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