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    • CommentAuthorrynowin
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2007
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    This has been addressed briefly in 'questions' or some other discussion...

    Many of us using Firefox and other browsers with automatic searches that activate when the DNS server does not send a response to an address bar request (if you will) are no longer able to depend on, for example, Firefox's I'm Feeling Lucky Search (or the new one Firefox uses, unless you changed it back to Lucky like me).

    There should be an option to disable the OpenDNS search and return whatever a normal DNS server returns when the site is not found.

    Thanks!
    • CommentAuthorpencoyd
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2007 edited
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    Add a network to your account and change the preferences re typo correction.

    Note: we want to improve the experience on the guide page, and overall. What other changes can we make to deliver a consistently great experience? We think you should be more than just Lucky! :smile:

    We think the search experience on guide.opendns.com is excellent, and we're adding some really cool stuff this month.
    Thankful People: freso, kaiser0929, sup3r_b0wlz
    • CommentAuthorsturmeh
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
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    It just feels a little like a search bot/toolbar has been installed on your system. ( If your feeling evil, simply block guide.opendns.com ) :devil:

    I understand you require the ad's to fund the OpenDNS project, but to be honest, no-one in my network clicks ad's.

    Perhaps if we could "turn off" that functionality, and just have ad's in the phishing sites. ?

    It's a great service nevertheless, and I simply can't wait till a Server opens up down here in Australia. ( if ever. )
    • CommentAuthorpencoyd
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
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    If the advertisements are relevant, people do click on them. If they are not, they won't. It's simple enough. Our job to make them relevant, of course.

    We welcome feedback about the advertisements we display, too. Not theoretical "I don't like ads" gripes but "this ad has nothing to do with what I was trying to do" feedback.

    Our business succeeds if you (our users) find the entire experience valuable.

    John Roberts
    OpenDNS

    ps - Regarding Australia... lots of folks are using us in Oz already, despite the Pacific Ocean. DNS speed ain't just hops. :smile:
    • CommentAuthorpdabr
    • CommentTimeApr 23rd 2007
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    <quote>ps - Regarding Australia... lots of folks are using us in Oz already, despite the Pacific Ocean. DNS speed ain't just hops</quote>
    amen to that! it's a godsend to finally not rely on my ISP's unreliable and constantly flaky dns.
    • CommentAuthorpencoyd
    • CommentTimeApr 23rd 2007
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    @pdabr. Cheers!
    • CommentAuthorsc10
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2007
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    Ah, salvation... I just hope this works with my dynamic IPs. :neutral:
    • CommentAuthorjoosts
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2007
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    • CommentAuthorfreddy
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2007
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    I would like to see such an option too.

    It's not because of the ads (They are already removed by our local proxy), it's due to 90% of the search results are useless.

    Before using OpenDNS I got google search results, they were much better than these yahoo results.

    So, please give us at least an option to use google instead of yahoo (should be possible with the Google AJAX Search API).

    I never worked with this yahoo API stuff.
    But it seems like it's an limited to English pages, might be an problem. I'm from Germany and if I misspell a Germany domain I can guarantee that the search results are useless.
    • CommentAuthorahoier
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2007
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    yea, some of the results I've found don't work....for kicks, I tried looking up lyrics using the method I'd use with Google, and I couldn't find them from the OpenDNS Guide page...I dont know if it's a Guide problem, a Yahoo problem, or both. But ever since like 2000 or more, I've preferred Google ;)
    Thankful People: xenuan
    • CommentAuthorpencoyd
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd 2007
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    @freddy - Google is not an option.

    We offer a free service, supported by advertising. It is your choice to block ads -- it's your network. But I'm not jumping up and down about your choice. :neutral:

    We will continue working to make the results and the entire experience great.
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    why is google not an option? sorry i'm new, might have missed it elsewhere.
    • CommentAuthorteltel
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2007
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    enough is enough.. after few mins that searched how can i back my google results, i read this page.. and it is time to bye bye to opendns
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    arg.. this is the only thing I find disappointing with openDNS. google > yahoo
    • CommentAuthorgdguarino
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007
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    I switched to OpenDNS yesterday and I'm about to switch back over this issue. I also find the OpenDNS responses vague, evasive and even a little insulting. Vague and evasive in that they suggest that tweaking preferences may help this problem, when the OpenDNS knowledge base says directly that the Firefox "I'm feeling lucky" feature is not supported. And it won't be, because the "search" page is your source of revenue. Revenue is OK, of course, but be straight with us. It doesn't work, right?

    The insulting part is the "wouldn't you prefer to be good instead of just lucky" quip. There's no luck involved; that's just Google's supposedly witty name for it. Those of us who use it are smart enough not to just type in "Niagara Falls". We don't use it when we need a "search" per se. We type in flickr or ebay or even OpenDNS and go to the correct site. That IS good. Having to negotiate an unnecessary search page is not as "good". Neither is setting up shortcuts, which amounts to taking extra time and effort to recreate a function I had automatically before, even for sites I am visiting for the first time.

    And when we DO need a search, we use the search box, again being intelligent enough to choose the search engine we want. I can't remember the last time I chose Yahoo.

    I tried some deliberate misspellings, by the way. ebay.co did get me to Ebay. But "ebat.com" got me to some sort of fake ebay get rich quick scheme. It's a little ironic, really. The ".com" misspelling is corrected by OpenDNS, but I didn't have to type ".com" until I switched to OpenDNS.

    Greg Guarino
    • CommentAuthorpencoyd
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007
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    Greg, we fix typos in the TLD (.com, .org and so on), not in the domain itself. There has been confusion about that.

    If you create an account and a network (all free), you may turn off typo correction and shortcuts, which gives you your browser defaults, at the expense of other features (the two mentioned, and adult site blocking, currently). We give you control over your DNS preferences.

    We are very clear about how we make money (advertising on OpenDNS Guide), and we're clear that we're a business.

    My good v. lucky quip clearly didn't make you laugh. So be it. Wasn't intended to be insulting.

    Many people, by the way, DO use address bar search, whether you consider that "smart" or not.

    John Roberts
    OpenDNS
    Thankful People: OpenDNS User, jocompany
    • CommentAuthorgdguarino
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007
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    Ok then, let's be clear. You say:

    "If you create an account and a network (all free), you may turn off typo correction and shortcuts, which gives you your browser defaults, at the expense of other features (the two mentioned, and adult site blocking, currently). We give you control over your DNS preferences."

    Does that mean that if I take the steps above my Firefox Address box will again have the Google "I'm Feeling Lucky" function that it had before? The Open DNS Knowledge base (Browsers) says:
    ----------------------------
    What happened to "I'm feeling lucky" feature?

    We understand that "I'm feeling lucky" is a desirable feature to many users. However, we are unable to support this at the present time. For now, shortcuts can help eliminate the need to type complete urls for frequently visited sites.
    ----------------------------

    Is that incorrect?

    Greg Guarino
    Thankful People: jdpower
    • CommentAuthorpencoyd
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007
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    It's incomplete, yes. There are 100+ KB articles, and I'm reviewing them all over the next 10 days.
    • CommentAuthorgdguarino
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007
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    I still don't feel I have an unambiguous answer. I'm sure you're a busy person, but I think a lot of people would benefit from a "yes" or "no" to the following question:

    If I take the steps you recommend, will my Firefox Address box again have the Google "I'm Feeling Lucky" function that it had before I started using OpenDNS?

    Greg Guarino
    Thankful People: jdpower, cotez, abillionistoomany
    • CommentAuthormarkhaas
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007 edited
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    I just tried turning off the typo correction, and no, the Firefox "I'm Feeling Lucky" feature still does not work.
    • CommentAuthormarkhaas
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007 edited
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    Also, Enable Typo Correction has this warning:

    Features that will not work without typo correction ON: shortcuts, adult site blocking, public announcement, custom image.

    I just turned off typo correction for my network, and I still get my custom image on the OpenDNS Guide page and shortcuts still work.

    Beside this, the description of typo correction easily leads one to believe its functionality is similar to the Firefox "I'm Feeling Lucky" feature," which it isn't. It's a great big fat funnel into Yahoo ads.

    Edited to add: OK, maybe there's a latency thing going on here. Now Firefox "I'm Feeling Lucky" seems to work correctly with shortcuts turned off, typo correction turned on and phishing protection turned on. Seems to take several minutes for a settings change to take effect, which may be misleading some here into false conclusions.
    • CommentAuthormarkhaas
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007 edited
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    • CommentAuthorpdabr
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007
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    as always, you need to wait at least 5 minutes for any changes you make to propagate correctly across the opendns network.
    • CommentAuthordrawer2007
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007
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    Why there is not a simple button to turn off this OpenDNS... it has blocked the youtube.com site... and it does not contain any adult or porno video... why do they block this kind of site? at least i understand with metacafe.com, but they don't really know there is some very useful videos inside this other website (metacafe.com)
    • CommentAuthorpencoyd
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007 edited
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    • CommentAuthorpencoyd
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2007
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    @drawer2007 - someone (you or your network operator) turned on both OpenDNS and the optional adult site blocking feature. Talk to your sys admin. My personal suggestion -- but it's not my network -- is not to block the Adult Themes category within Adult site blocking...it's pretty restrictive.
    • CommentAuthorhafif
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2008
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    I'm not against the search page, but lately, probably due to some temporary errors i'm running into the "yikes" page a lot. what i would like to do is refresh that page and go to my destination if the site works. if this is not an option, the url in the sentence "Yikes, www.blabla.com isn't loading right now" at least could be a link to www.blabla.com.

    thank you.
    • CommentAuthorkrobe
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008
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    You may not care about users who would disable the opendns guide, but just letting you know I also will not be using your service because of the lack of an "I'm feeling lucky" option. If I type in slashdot, I want to go to slashdot not a search page.
    Thankful People: dante8411
    • CommentAuthorahoier
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2008
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    You could also create a shortcut to "slashdot" - enter "slashdot" in your address bar, when you arrive at the opendns guide page, up at the very top of that page you are given the option to create a shortcut.
    Thankful People:
    • CommentAuthorjdpower
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2008
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    Quite funny to come back here and see the Firefox address bar issue is still being stubbornly ignored. I've just given ODNS a third 'second chance' hoping the DNS-o-matic service may fix it (due to being given the excuse before that it was a dynamic DNS issue), but surprise surprise still no 'Feeling lucky' search in the Firefox address bar.

    So it's yet another, and I suspect final, goodbye to OpenDNS :sad:
    Thankful People: dante8411
    • CommentAuthorduckworth
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
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    I am frustrated with this as well and think this is a good bye to a once useful service.
    • CommentAuthorChris
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2008
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    I swear this wasn't a problem when OpenDNS first started. I used it for probably a year and it was no problem (with typo correction turned off).

    Time Warner's DNS has gone crappy (blocking sites they don't like, i.e. thepiratebay.org) so I turned back to opendns, but sadly this still isn't fixed.

    I'd pay yearly to get rid of the friggin guide page.
    • CommentAuthorveinor
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2008
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    http://www.google.com/search?btnI=I%27m+Feeling+Lucky&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q= is a valid URL, but it redirects to http://guide.opendns.com/?url=&client=ff15 . So basically, OpenDNS is playing around with valid URLs and redirecting them. If there was a way to disable this, it'd be fine. But until then, I can't use this service.
    • CommentAuthorrotblitz
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2008
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    Add something like the following line to your "hosts" file:
    (usually in %windir%\system32\drivers\etc)
    64.233.183.104 www.google.com www.google.de www.i.google.com # no OpenDNS catchup!

    This prevents the OpenDNS circumvention approach taking place and causes your programs (e.g. browser) going directly to Google again without further DNS request. Let me know if this solves your problem.
    Thankful People: findlay, mlex
    • CommentAuthorsbw07
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
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    Here's little workaround that might help.
    Create a new bookmark with the location:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=%s&btnI=I'm+Feeling+Lucky
    Enter whatever keyboard shortcut you'd like (I did gl).
    Now when you type the keyboard shortcut plus your search term in the address bar you'll be taken to the first google result, example: gl slashdot takes me directly to http://slashdot.org/
    Thankful People: findlay, dusk_eagle, cindelicato
    • CommentAuthorLee Jones
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2008
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    Am I reading this right? Are there users getting riled up because the Google "I'm Feeling Lucky" button doesn't work on Firefox? What's the big deal?

    OpenDNS is rather open (har har) about what they offer and the limitations of the service. If you don't like it, it IS a free service, so you don't have to use it.

    To pass a great service offering because they try to pay the bills with ads DISPLAYED ONLY UNDER A FEW CONDITIONS is senseless. Give them a break, or go back to trolling at some other forum.
    Thankful People: cindelicato
    • CommentAuthorkrobe
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2008
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    I was just checking in to see if this was changed, but looks like it hasn't been.

    Lee you are not reading it right, or at least not comprehending it. Just because you don't use the feature in firefox doesn't mean it's not an important part of the web browsing experience for others.

    I also know that this is a service being provided in return for ad revenue, hence why I caveatted my comment by saying that OpenDNS may not care about the wishes of people trying to disable the OpenDNS guide.
    Thankful People: adys
    • CommentAuthorlmjabreu
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008
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    rotblitz's solution works perfectly.

    I won't be spreading any OpenDNS love though. Hijacking's a no-go, get another revenue model, you already gather usage data, sell it or something, subscriptions would be ok too, or agreements with telecom companies, who knows.
    • CommentAuthorsorpigal
    • CommentTimeFeb 28th 2008
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    Let me second the subscriptions idea. I have added something to the idea bank to this effect. I wont use opendns while it hijacks, but I would be happy to pay 5, 10, or even 20 USD per month to get reliable DNS that does not hijack anything. Other DNS providers exist that would be happy to take my money, but opendns is the best and I'd rather give it to them.
    • CommentAuthortheduff
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2008
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    • CommentAuthorxg-74
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2008 edited
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    Oh God!!!!

    Thank You Mr. theduff!!!

    I *almost* shot myself because I couldn't remember how I fixed this last time!

    I really, really appreaciate it!

    Thanx!

    ^_^
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    > http://www.google.com/search?btnI=I%27m+Feeling+Lucky&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q= is a > valid URL, but it redirects to http://guide.opendns.com/?url=&client=ff15 . So > basically, OpenDNS is playing around with valid URLs and redirecting them.

    Woah, that's really bad. Especially since that's EXACTLY what the OpenDNS CEO was complaining that Dell and Google were going. Go figure:
    http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9020919&pageNumber=1

    'When questioned on his use of that loaded term, Ulevitch defended the choice in an interview. "One, the user is forced to use this, at least out of the box, and gets a crappy experience for his trouble. At the very minimum, it's adware, but I think it does border on spyware."'

    Hmmm... take a long, hard look in the mirror, David!

    Anyway, I've turned off typo correction, something I was "forced to use, at least out of the box" and was giving me "a crappy experience for [my] trouble". Unfortunately OpenDNS (for now) is *still* intercepting my Google Toolbar search. I'll give it a few hours to cease and desist, but if not, I too will vote with my feet. :angry:
    Thankful People: rolfharris, dusk_eagle, babyacorn
    • CommentAuthorfindlay
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2008 edited
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    I don't use Google Toolbar, so I can't speak for that. But I have discovered how to stop OpenDNS interfering with what I type into my Firefox address bar. I was more than happy with Google's "Browse By Name" service, which takes you directly to the website (just like I'm Feeling Lucky) if it is clear what the website should be. Otherwise it gives you a page of Google search results. So "imdb bourne ultimatum" (without the quotes) returns http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0440963/ as you would expect, but "digital cameras" returns a page of search results.

    So how to retain Google's search service, while still using OpenDNS' filters?
    1. Type about:config in the address bar, hit Enter.
    2. In the filter box, type keyword.
    3. Double-click the keyword.URL line, and paste this string into the popup dialog:
    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=
    4. Hit enter, and now the address bar should work with Google as you wanted. Note: the keyword.enabled preference must be set to true for this to work.
    • CommentAuthorfindlay
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2008 edited
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    The most interesting thing about this is what OpenDNS is doing. The default entry for keyword.URL in Firefox 2 is http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=
    This is a perfectly valid URL which should perform the Google service described above. But with OpenDNS enabled, this URL is intercepted and redirected to http://guide.opendns.com/?url=&client=ff20
    How did we fix this behaviour? I simply removed the string "ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&" from the URL and OpenDNS let it pass without interference! Correct me if you like, but it seems pretty scary what OpenDNS is doing. They don't want you to receive Google search results, so they watch for the default Firefox 2 search string (which includes "ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&") and redirect any instances to their own money-producing search results. You've just got to follow the cash flow!

    I am not impressed. When my browser sends out a perfectly valid search query to Google, I expect my DNS to forward that request to Google and allow me to see the results I requested. Since when did it become a DNS' business to intercept particular URLs and redirect them to their own website, for their own benefit, behind our backs? This is hardly _Open_DNS!!
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    Interesting. This fixed me up in Firefox too, but in IE OpenDNS still rail-roads my I'm Feeling Lucky Google searches to their own page. I have raised a support request, but I suspect this behaviour is by design. :-(

    Funny that simply changing:
    http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=

    To:
    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=

    Does the trick. They're obviously sniffing for a very specific URL construct to hijack. I hate hate HATE this "feature" though. Features like this are what kills an otherwise useful service. I would guess most people using this are technically minded folk (developers, IT guys, etc.) who HATE having their own settings over-ridden by something else. Bad bad move.
    Thankful People: frankie3s, ash1794, assimilater
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    Anyone who thinks the search hijacking behaviour sucks should tell them so using the Other comments bit of the survey they're running:
    http://cssurvey.opendns.com
    • CommentAuthornanoflower
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
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    Hmm, personally I'm having an issue that is about to cause me to block the guide.opendns.com site. I typed in a url and the site wasn't responding so I got sent to the guide site. I don't like it, but I can live with it (would prefer the 404 message since I typed in the correct URL but the site just wasn't responding at the time.)

    However, the guide.opendns.com just goes into a reload loop. It loads the site, sits there for a second or two and reloads the site again and again. I suspect it would do it for eternity if I was willing to let it sit that long. It reloads quickly enough that I have trouble reading the text on the page and would never be able to type any text in the search box.

    This is with the latest released update for Firefox 2.0 (2.0.0.14) on Windows XP
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    Guess what? Bye bye OpenDNS. Redirecting to anything but Google is simply NOT an option. I have been bugged by this for months, and now I finally got the time/motivation to figure out what kind of high-level redirect you're doing, and here's a thought you might want to consider:

    I would actually rather use Comcast's crappy DNS servers than have your crippled search results. Sorry, but this service just sucks with that s*** for search.

    Ciao forever!
    Thankful People: mindshare, ash1794, watabou90
    • CommentAuthorodevcige
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2008
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    I work out of an hotel and it seems like the only way to get to internet is through OpenDNS servers. And they do not resolve my corporate intranet addresses. I tried everything including typo correction/exception. How can I possibly disable this useless OpenDNS annoyance and get going with my work?

    Please please help...

    CP
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    Ladies and Gentlemen, the answer: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/8040

    And if you don't have it yet obviously you would need Greasemonkey first: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748
    Thankful People: amrhassan, ash1794, gs1971

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